Dr. Judy Morgan 0:00
Welcome to the last podcast of 2025 where Gwen and I are going to discuss our favorite podcasts from the past year, things that we've learned, and we'll do a bit of a deep dive into what's coming up at our event in 2027. Stay tuned.
Intro
Welcome to the Naturally Healthy Pets podcast. Let's get to it.
Dr. Judy Morgan
Hello everyone. Welcome to the Naturally Healthy Pets podcast. I'm your host, Dr Judy Morgan, and today my guest is someone that most of you should be familiar with. She happens to be the COO of Dr Judy Morgan's Naturally Healthy Pets, and that person is Gwen Campbell, who I know pretty well because she's my daughter.
Gwen Campbell 0:45
yeah, yeah. Thanks for having me. It's my first, my one and only podcast. Pretty cool.
Dr. Judy Morgan 0:51
Well, you're welcome to do some more anytime you'd like.
Gwen Campbell
yeah, maybe one day,
Dr. Judy Morgan
maybe one day, maybe one day you'll be sitting on this side.
Gwen Campbell
That'd be cool.
Dr. Judy Morgan
That'd be very cool. I'm going on vacation. Bye.
Gwen Campbell
retired. Officially retired.
Dr. Judy Morgan
Officially retired. Yeah, this is retirement. It's just sort of a running joke around here. Michele Allen keeps telling me that I really suck at this retirement thing. I don't do it very well. I don't know how to do it,
Gwen Campbell 1:17
or you've completely hacked it, and you're doing great.
Dr. Judy Morgan 1:20
Maybe, maybe actually, this is, this is a pretty good retirement. It's a lot better than the daily grind of going to the clinic and dealing with hundreds of sick animals every day. So, Now our goal is to keep people from having to have sick animals and having to take those sick animals to the veterinarian as often. So hopefully we're giving the veterinarians a bit of a break as well.
Gwen Campbell 1:45
Yep, we just want them to go to their once a year annual wellness checkup, make sure everything's okay and otherwise keep them naturally healthy at home.
Dr. Judy Morgan 1:52
Now, wouldn't that be amazing? So that's the goal. So we're changing around our podcast format. So this is the last podcast of 2025 so we're going to take a look back at the past year and talk about the changes that are coming up for 2026. So one of the big changes for 2026 is this studio. So you will see our podcasts for 2026 in a different format. In the past, we've done things remotely, and so we've we've been fortunate to have interviews with experts from all around the world, because we have used the power of the internet. Yay. I wrote a blog years ago called I Hate technology, and now I use it all the time. And so I probably have said a few times that I'm really against AI, and, you know, ask me five years from now, when we're using AI all the time, and then we may have a different conversation. Gwen still says no to the AI. I'm really not a fan of AI. I think it can be used so inappropriately and so much bad information. So right now, I'm not a fan.
Gwen Campbell 3:09
We're doing the opposite. We're bringing things in person. So that was one of the things. I was never a podcast fan. I'm not a big ingestor of podcasts. And so when we were looking back on our own Naturally Healthy Pets podcast. We put a lot of resources into it, and it takes a lot of time and energy and effort and money. So we had the decision of, Are we, are we going to cut back on the podcast? And then we found that it was actually really fruitful and a helpful way to disseminate awesome education to people free of charge. They can just consume it at their leisure, either on YouTube in video format or as a podcast. So we decided to double down on podcasts. Instead of getting away with the podcast or pulling back on the podcast, we're doing more with the podcast. So there'll be longer episodes, instead of 20-25 minutes, there'll be full 60 minute episodes, and it's all filmed in person with our fancy 4k cameras, these big old microphones, and our whole little media team, so they will be much higher quality for 2026 than some of the virtual recordings that we had in 2025
Dr. Judy Morgan 4:14
Yeah, it's so difficult. So Gwen had this great idea. She said, All right, we're just gonna put Dr Judy on a plane and send her around the world with a video team to interview all these experts. Because a lot of the holistic veterinarians, as Gwen says, live in wigwams in the desert. But they don't have good internet, and they don't have good lighting, and they don't have good microphones, and it some of our some of our podcasts that we had scheduled to tape, we just had to cancel, and we're never able to bring them about because we just could not get a good quality connection.
Gwen Campbell 4:57
Yeah, the technology just wasn't cooperating unfortunately.
Dr. Judy Morgan 5:02
Just wasn't there. And so when, when you came up with this idea of everything will be done in person, I kind of said, Who the heck is going to come to Zebulon, North Carolina? We are near Raleigh, so it's not as bad as it sounds, but who's going to come to Zebulon, North Carolina to our office to do podcasts, and
Gwen Campbell 5:27
the answer is really awesome people. So get excited for 2026
Dr. Judy Morgan 5:32
The answer is really awesome people. And so we sent out an email to a lot of people in the industry and said, you know, this is what we're going to do for 2026 anybody want to come? And the response was overwhelming.
Gwen Campbell 5:47
Yeah. So just just a little sneak peek, we've got some big name people on the podcast for 2026 and again, this is all in person. So very high quality recordings. We had. Dr Rob Silver, Dr PJ Broadfoot, also going to be part of our 2027 Experience, which we'll talk a little bit about. Dr Karen Becker, Rita Hogan, did, I think, probably my favorite podcast recording of 2026 on a super niche, interesting topic that I think everybody's really going to enjoy. So there's a lot of big names that we got to record in person on these fancy cameras with good audio quality, and I hope that tons of people get to listen to it and learn from them, because there's a lot of really good information coming out.
Dr. Judy Morgan 6:27
There's tons of information. And so we had the I was going to go to the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association, AHVMA conference down in West Palm Beach, Florida this past September, I was going anyway, and so we came up with this idea of, hey, you know, there's going to be all these holistic veterinarians, all these experts, all these instructors there. So why don't we take our team and we'll line up, I think we did eight interviews over two and a half days, but got some, you know, really big name people, some really, really high powered interviews, tons and tons and tons of information. And a couple of them were, I mean, just blew my mind with the amount of information that was offered up in that 60 minutes. And it was sort of like the 60 Minutes flew by and I went, wait. I have like, four more hours of questions that I could talk to these people about. So the the format for 2026 I think is, is going to be really amazing. I think people will be really happy. I thought you were crazy when you brought it up, but it seems to have worked out.
Gwen Campbell 7:43
I love that. I love that, and I hope people are getting excited for it. And I guess, as an ode to 2025 the format is going away, but we still have some great interviews. Let's talk about some of your favorites. I know I have a favorite, and we can talk about the most popular podcast of 2025 in case some listeners listening now haven't gotten a chance to tune in.
Dr. Judy Morgan 8:05
Yeah, if you go back and they're they're still all there on YouTube.
Gwen Campbell 8:09
Do you know? Do you have a guess of what the most popular it was the most popular podcast of the year, both on YouTube and on podcast platforms.
Gwen Campbell 8:18
Yeah, do you do you have a guess?
Dr. Judy Morgan
No idea
Speaker 2 8:21
it was kiss Parvo and the vaccine, goodbye, Episode 61 with Dr Todd Cooney.
Dr. Judy Morgan 8:28
You know, it's really interesting, because that one keeps showing up in my feed on social media. It's like, I keep seeing snippets of that one. So, yeah, that doesn't surprise me that that was the most popular one.
Gwen Campbell 8:43
Yeah. And so if you haven't gotten a chance to watch or listen, I strongly recommend you go back to Episode 61 it was the most popular. I think for good reason. He had some fascinating insight into his transition from being a traditional veterinarian to a homeopathic veterinarian, and specifically, he talked about vaccines and his vaccine protocol, and that he doesn't have any vaccines in his clinic, except for rabies. That's it just that one vaccine
Dr. Judy Morgan
He probably only has that because he has to
Gwen Campbell
right legally, yeah. And I thought those super interesting, interesting podcast is probably one of my favorites. And I think the topic of vaccines is not going away. I think, if anything, we're going to talk more about it coming up. And you, I think, have gotten a lot of heat for every time we talk about vaccines, and you get accused and labeled as being an anti Vaxxer. You always say, you know, you're not anti Vax. You just want it to be used responsibly, ethically, and just there's, we have science that shows you know, there's a better way to do it, and it's not being done. Which I respect. And we have some materials. We have a whole vaccine Resources page. And I think listening to experts like Dr Todd Cooney, I'm I mean you, you have your views, which is what we run. Dr Judy Morgan's Naturally Healthy Pets. Based on me personally, I think the more I learn about vaccines, the more anti Vax I become.
Dr. Judy Morgan 10:08
I'm in the same boat. Our outdoor Barn Cats, come close, they've had one distemper vaccine and one rabies vaccine. They are all neutered because I don't want 4000 cats. 4000 chickens is bad enough Gwen Yeah, 4000 cats. So, but they are the healthiest batch of cats I think I've ever had.
Gwen Campbell 11:29
Yeah, and he, he mentioned in that podcast, which, again, I strongly encourage if you haven't gotten a chance to listen to it, please do. Because he, he mentioned some statistics in there about autoimmunity. And there was actually a Purdue study about those vaccinated having 100% autoimmunity versus the unvaccinated had zero. And he said, you know, you don't need a statistician to dig into those statistics. It's literally it is or it isn't. And vaccines are still even on the video on YouTube, it has the vaccine. PSA, that's like vaccines have saved dying children. And so, you know, there's still that that propaganda, essentially is what I consider it to be honest, even on social media as you're trying to consume these alternative ideas of people doing it differently, and you get the label on it from social media. So I thought that was very interesting.
Dr. Judy Morgan 12:29
That is very interesting. So I think you asked what my favorites were. I actually I enjoyed Dr Angie Kraus when we did the future is feline. I enjoyed my interview with her so much that I had her come back for a second one. So for cat folks there, there are specific cat podcasts out there where we focused on feline medicine and feline health, because we get accused of not talking about kitty cats often enough. And I'm a cat lover. I have nine cats. I've got more cats than dogs.
Gwen Campbell 13:01
Yeah, I'm a cat person. I'm very pro cat. I love cats.
Dr. Judy Morgan
You have two dogs and one cat.
Gwen Campbell
I do. I have more dogs than cats, but I love cats.
Dr. Judy Morgan 13:10
Yeah, our Barn Cats are so cool. They're the I was talking to Hue about it the other day when one of the cats was playing with a mouse in the driveway. And you know, you have to feel sorry for the mouse, because you're like, This is not a fun game for the mouse, but the cat's having a ball, you know. And two other cats were sitting there watching the one cat playing, at least they weren't all ganging up on it. But at one point, we were selling the farm, one of our farms, and I had moved the cats over to the new farm, and so there were no cats at the old farm. And when I went to the feed room at the old farm with no cats, it was literally overrun with mice. I mean it. There was a rat movie back in the 1960s Wilbur something about rats taking over New York City. And it was, you know, one of those B horror movies that, literally, it was like walking into that in that feed room where there were no cats for mouse control. People don't realize how, like, everybody complains about outdoor cats, and we shouldn't have outdoor cats, and they hurt the songbird population and blah, blah, blah. And our cats do catch a few birds, but that's not their main focus. A farm with lots of Grain and Feed stuff and no cats is not a fun place to be. It gets really ugly, really fast.
Gwen Campbell 14:38
Yeah, and I, at least from the studies I've seen, cat ownership seems to be on the rise. More people are getting cats and they're, I mean, I like them because they, I think they're lower maintenance in a lot of ways than dogs. I'm not an enthusiastic dog walker, letting my dogs out every day. Now that I have a yard, I'm like, That's so. Much easier, but when I didn't have a yard, take my dog for a walk multiple times a day. Like, I'm not one of those people that necessarily enjoyed that part of dog ownership. But for cats, you know, being snuggled up in bed and watching a movie together, I'm like, Oh, I just love cats so much. And my dog will do that too, but she's got to take some pee breaks. Edward, he just helps himself, you know, like little kittens. I just, we've raised so many kittens from rescue and stuff, and literally, you just put them in a litter box, and they start digging around, and their instincts just kick in. They just know they're just litter trained. They give them some food, some litter, some love. Oh my gosh. I just, I love cats. I really do. They're a perfect little companion.
Dr. Judy Morgan 15:39
You know, cats are. You're right. Cats are you have to go through so much to train dogs to go pee outside.
Gwen Campbell
Yeah, just go pee outside, please.
Gwen Campbell 15:48
I mean, my dogs are actually, they were fantastically easy to house train, and I thank God, on a daily basis that he sent me dogs that were easy to train. Because, again, I'm not. I'm kind of like a self, admittedly, like a lazy dog owner. And my dog, Mila, my first dog, she is like, she's chill. She just loves to, you know, snug up and watch movies, and if she goes on a walk, cool. But if not, she's fine, you know, she doesn't care. But Marlo is not like that. Marlo needs adventure, and he needs dog stuff. He needs roughhousing and playing and all that stuff. And so he's, he's been training me to be more, more enthusiastic about that type of of dog ownership, because before I was a cat person, and then I had a dog that was kind of cat like, and I got really spoiled, but now I'm, you know, I love dogs too. I do.
Dr. Judy Morgan 16:34
But anyway, so there are cat specific podcasts, so tune into those if you haven't listened to them yet, we need to take a break to hear from our sponsors. Stay tuned. We'll be right back
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Dr. Judy Morgan 18:27
Welcome back to the Naturally Healthy Pets podcast. So we've been kind of rehashing the 2025 podcasts, and the changes that you will see for 2026 when we go to an all in person, longer format with just tons more information. But back to 2025, I think one of my favorite episodes was there were two, but one was Dr. Rick LeCouteur from Australia, who was a retired veterinary surgeon, who started writing wildlife children's books because his grandchildren thought that penguins drove cars and lived in houses. And he said, Well, I think that they need to learn about the real habitat of penguins and where they live and what they do, and so he's written all these beautiful wildlife stories, children's books, but his illustrations, I mean, what an incredible, incredible artist. So that's one if you usually only listen to podcasts. That would be one that I think he held up some of his illustrations on camera. Just an amazing artist. And I would also recommend getting his books, particularly if you have small children in your life. And then there was, yeah, there was another episode where we talked about pets going to heaven and pets in heaven. Yeah, that. That's, that's, that's a topic that's near and dear to my heart, because I've had that conversation with I have a couple of friends who are writers and who specialize in the afterlife, and I've had that conversation with them many times. And you know, I'm kind of looking forward to that day when I just get bowled over by all these animals who's who have crossed my path and been part of my my life here in in this realm, can't wait to see them again.
Gwen Campbell 20:30
Yeah, that was episode 65 with Steve Wahlberg. And I thought, I thought it was very interesting too, because I did not really believe in any of that until I almost turned 30 years old, I didn't find God till I turned 29 so hearing his story of how he had, you know, this divine encounter, and all that he's learned, that was very close to my heart, because it's kind of a journey I've been on recently as well, in the past few years, I think there is a huge intersection between what we do and that type of spirituality, because ultimately, like when we're trying to heal pets and keep them naturally healthy, I mean, this is all God's creation, and we're we're just part of it. We're just trying to be good stewards of it. So I think that topic, especially specifically I thought, was really interesting and near and dear to my heart. Yeah.
Dr. Judy Morgan 21:19
Well, and that also brings us to the episode with Zach Bush on regenerative farming, which is really getting back to the way that nature intended, which is the way that God intended, and that's so much of what we are now trying to do at Fine and Dandy Acres, trying to go back to doing things more naturally and regenerating the land and raising our own produce and raising our own meats and our own eggs and our own dairy products, going back to not having chemicals and additives and synthetic ingredients and going back to nature and
Gwen Campbell 22:10
It's a simple way that it was intended, and it's a perfect system if we stop meddling with it. And we are, we are Naturally Healthy Pets. So I think that's really what we're trying to empower people to do, is use natural healing modalities, setting people up for success with a good foundation in nutrition, really clean nutrition, as much as you can, avoiding the overuse of medications and toxic chemicals. It all goes hand in hand. So I love that interview too, with Dr Zach. I think the way he talks about nature and the gut and all that intertwining is very insightful.
Dr. Judy Morgan 22:42
Yeah, there was a great interview with Barbara Royal where she basically said what we were dealing with is a nutrition emergency, and it's not only for our pets. It's for for us as well.
Gwen Campbell 22:59
Yeah, every living being. We're all connected. Nobody's in a bubble. So it impacts literally everybody and the same even when we're talking about for our pets, we're looking for human grade nutrition. However, what if that human grade chicken was fed a neurotoxin for mites in a confinement operation with GMO feed and tightly compact and high stress levels that's going to impact our nutrition, is going to impact our pets' nutrition. So I think it's all, yeah, it's all connected,
Dr. Judy Morgan 23:33
yeah, absolutely, you know. And I understand people can get upset with us because they're like, Well, not everybody can afford to get, you know, free range, pasture raised, regenerative farm meats. And frankly, we're at the point with our family we probably spend, I mean, other than the food that we grow ourselves, but food that we buy we we spend more. To be sure, like I'd rather spend more money on sourcing high quality food from humanely raised animals and organically raised produce. I'd rather spend more money there and cut back somewhere else. I don't need a new iPhone. I don't need a bigger, better TV as a matter of fact, we don't even watch I don't. I can't even tell you what any of the Current TV shows are, because we just don't watch that. TV for us is watching reruns of Mash and Andy Griffith. I mean, yeah, you know, back when things were really wholesome and we just don't watch sometimes I'll watch documentaries, but I don't need to spend money on those sorts of things. And really. I don't need stuff. So when we look at spending money on things, it's like, I'm gonna spend money on an experience, a memory, something, something that that will stay with me, not something that is disposable.
Gwen Campbell 25:15
Yeah, just shifting priorities. And I think especially with our health, with our pets' health, it's so much easier and better to set them up from from the start with good nutrition, instead of waiting until you know they're 9 or 10, years old, when you get that dreaded diagnosis, and then you're kind of stuck. Do you spend 1000s of dollars down the traditional route trying to heal or cure or prolong their life? Do you have to make a life ending decision? You're really kind of stuck. And I think setting them up for success from the beginning, which is what a lot of the podcasts are talking about, is definitely the best way to go. One of, I think, one that I learned quite a bit from was, I think it was episode 52 with Dr Peter Dobias. We love Dr Peter Dobias. He's also part of the 2027 Experience, which we'll talk about here in a we'll talk about here in a second. But he talked about hormone replacement therapy for spayed and neutered dogs. And, you know, I love that topic. I love the topic of traditional spay and neuter and the alternatives. Once somebody it took, it was, I distinctly remember three years ago in 2022 all it took was one comment on social media, somebody, and I can't remember the person's name, but if you're listening, thank you. They just commented, what about tubal ligation? It was just that one simple comment that opened Pandora's box for me. Of like, why don't we do it in a better way, where we're not removing whole functioning organs from these young, healthy animals in the name of sterilization? That makes no logical sense when you when you really start to dig into the topic. And so now, three years later, we've got some big names. I mean, Dr Karen Becker, Dr Peter Dobias. A lot of people are now talking about the impacts of traditional spay and neuter, removing those whole organs, and how it negatively impacts them for the rest of their lives. And then for those people that are big into rescue, like my my dog is a spayed female because she was rescued, so she came that way. And what you can do, yeah, what you can do to support them, if that choice was kind of taken away from you, if you didn't have the choice to keep them hormonally intact, what do you do you do afterwards? And so his episode about hormone replacement therapy, I think, is really interesting, because we're learning about the detrimental effects. But so many people have already rescued a pet or done that procedure themselves, and they feel kind of stuck, like, Well, what do I do now the hormones are gone. How do I help my pet? So that was a good one too.
Dr. Judy Morgan 27:39
Yeah, absolutely, yeah. So there's so much that we're we're learning that's that's new when, when I graduated from school. So that's over 40 years ago now, scary, but you know, it was just very cut and dried. You give every vaccine every year. You spay and neuter before six months of age. It's just antibiotic shots every time they come in for a spay, a neuter, a dental, any routine surgery always covered with antibiotics. And now we're, you know, metronidazole for every case of diarrhea, and things are changing rapidly, and partly because they have to. I mean, now we have antibiotic resistance that is such a huge problem, and it's because of the overuse of antibiotics. Antibiotics have been have saved so many lives, and it was one of the greatest inventions ever when we found penicillin, but it has gone down a very bad road, very bad road. And so now we have to pull back, and we have to reevaluate what we've just taken for granted. You know, spay and neuter before six months of age before they ever go into heat. And now, you know, it's forcing us to look at countries where that's not done, and to actually get better studies on the incidence of cancers. And you know, is leaving them intact, protective against some things. So, you know, I love getting to interview these people who are doing deep dives on whatever their topic is, because it's a way for me to learn but and then be able to pass that information along. But it's also a way for anybody who's listening to it to and then what happens is a lot of people who are listening to the podcast and getting that information, then they're going and having that conversation with the veterinary technician or the veterinarian next time they're in the office. Like, did you know there are studies that show X, Y, Z,
Gwen Campbell
doing more research, yeah, getting more education
Dr. Judy Morgan 29:53
and passing that knowledge along. So, yeah, I think, I think the podcasts, um. Um, are such a valuable source of information, and it's just, it's that six degrees of separation. You know, I tell you something, and then you go tell somebody else, and then that person tells somebody else. It does change a little bit. It's that whisper down the line thing, but it is information that is, that is starts as a ripple that just, goes out.
Gwen Campbell 30:20
It is eye opening. And like I said, I was, I was a podcast skeptic. I used to be uninformed. And I have even learned quite a bit of things from the podcast. And even if it just, if you're listening and it just makes you kind of go, hmm, yeah, that's interesting. I kind of want to research that a little bit more. I think that's really, really wonderful start for anybody. And even Dr Cooney. I was listening to his episode again, preparing for this, and he even said, you know, titers aren't even really like what he considers the gold standard. And I'm like, that's really interesting, because that's kind of what we consider as, you know, a good standard. And maybe that's there's something even better out there. We thought that about spay and neuter, but maybe there's even a better way of sterilizing them without removing whole organs, and doing these hormone replacement therapies for ones that are already sterilized the traditional way. So I think, especially for the episodes coming up being a little bit longer, we've got some really great experts. I hope that it opens people's eyes to even just challenging some ways of thinking now, and maybe just opening up a little curiosity of how things could be better in the future.
Dr. Judy Morgan 31:24
Yeah, yeah. I mean, we only know what we know right now. We don't know what we don't know, and it's it'll be really interesting to see what opens up. I mean, so much has opened up in the past. I wrote my first book, and it came out in 2014 so in the past, the past 12-11, years, things have changed so dramatically in so many directions. And we just, we just keep learning all the time. That's why the podcasts are fun for me, because I get to hear about, you know, everybody has their own little niche where they're they're like, Oh, this is, you know, I'm going down this rabbit hole. And so it's really interesting to to learn all those different rabbit holes.
Gwen Campbell 32:10
Yeah, it takes a village. Not not one person is the be all, end all, expert on our great Earth. But speaking of, I've been dying to talk about the next Experience, because I think that is one of the best opportunities we have from Naturally Healthy Pets to get educated and empowered. Be around people that are like minded, just like you, people that hyper obsess over their pets, nutrition, their enrichment, their mental health status, being around people that like all the same things that you like. That's pretty fun.
Dr. Judy Morgan 32:41
Well, it's mental health enrichment for the pet owner to be in a room with 500 people who have that same level of knowledge, that same level of passion and intensity toward learning the best natural ways to keep their pets healthy.
Gwen Campbell 33:05
So, it's April, 23 to the 25th 2027 we're calling it the Naturally Healthy Pets Reunion Experience, because somebody very near and dear to our heart, I think it was Miss Becky. She said it felt like a family reunion, being around so much people that were full of love and passion for the same things that she was passionate about. And so that's the theme. It's basically a big old Texas family reunion in Dallas, Texas,
Dr. Judy Morgan
at reunion square, Reunion Tower
Gwen Campbell 33:35
on Reunion Boulevard. Yes. So the theme came together quite strongly once we, once we chose the venue, and some of our our keynote speakers are returning from the previous experience in 2025
Dr. Judy Morgan
that was due to demand.
Gwen Campbell
Yep, they were so awesome. People wanted them back again. So one we talked about briefly. Dr, Peter Dobias, you just got to love him. He's pretty awesome.
Dr. Judy Morgan 33:59
You do. And the funny thing is, we had to, Gwen had to beg to get him to speak at our first Experience, the first big Experience. He said, No, I don't do crowds. I don't do I don't like to be in front of a lot of people and and we said, Oh, come on, we'll, we'll, we'll make it so great, you'll have a great and he did. He had so much fun, and he was, he was so interactive, like he didn't go hide. He wanted to just talk to pet owners the entire weekend.
Gwen Campbell 34:34
Yeah, he's very humble, which is refreshing, but he's brilliant. He's a very smart man, and he focuses on dogs. So again, we've, we've got some specific cat lover things as well. We've got the Two Crazy Cat Ladies as our MCs for our big cat fans, where we still love cats. But he, he gave a really interesting talk, last last Experience, about Otitis for dogs was the main theme. Then he touched on some other things, and we we're having him back again because he was so popular. He's one of our most sought after speakers,
Dr. Judy Morgan 35:10
and he was, he was so humble. When we asked him to come back, he said, Really, you would want to have me back again? And we're like, well, everybody who was there wants you to come back again. So yes!
Gwen Campbell 35:24
And for this Experience, we are expanding a little bit. We did a survey and got everybody's feedback after the first Experience about how we could make it even better. And so one of the things that people were really interested in is information about human and environmental health, like things that impact the whole family, essentially. So we wanted to expand to include some human health components as well, so people can learn the same principles that we talked about for our pets. Being healthy as a person is really important. And Dr Dobias has a whole human line of supplements that he's done all the research and development into so he does both pet and people wellness. So he's great, great addition.
Dr. Judy Morgan 36:06
So we're also having the Marsdens come back as a team to present together. They said they're already working on their new skit.
Gwen Campbell 36:13
Yeah, they did a skit as what was an adrenal adrenal gland and the brain? Dr, Steve was the brain, yeah, because Doctor Kären, because she got her hair done, so she, that was the only reason why she was the adrenal gland. But, yeah, they did a really fun, interactive skit. We had no idea they were going to do that either. They just showed up on stage and put their costumes on. We were like, where is this going? It was awesome. The great, a great way to learn about how your pet's body is functioning and what you can do about it. They're brilliant people as well. They've healed many pets
Dr. Judy Morgan 36:50
So they're they're fun. And then we've expanded the market. The Natural Pet Health market is now pet and human health market, and I think we have room for 96 almost 100 vendors. Last time we had 54 so almost double our vendor space.
Gwen Campbell 37:16
Yeah, and we're gonna do a cocktail and Hors d'oeuvres shopping night for people so they can interact with the vendors. One of the pieces of feedback we got was that they really appreciated that the vendors were hand picked. So even though the vendors weren't on stage presenting when they had that shopping time, everybody within the vendor area was still a knowledgeable expert in the industry
Dr. Judy Morgan 37:39
There's a lot of educational stuff going on at the booths.
Gwen Campbell 37:43
Right. And so it was really good educational and community building event. We will have Dr PJ Broadfoot, who is also on the 2026 podcast as a little preview. She's a great speaker. She was the keynote speaker at AHVMA this past year.
Dr. Judy Morgan 37:59
Yep, she's on the council of elders. She's, she's been doing holistic things for a lot of years.
Gwen Campbell 38:06
Yeah, lots of hands on experience. She has her own clinic, so she she's got tons of hands on experience.
Dr. Judy Morgan 38:11
Yeah, she's, she's brilliant. Kendra Pope, Dr Kendra Pope, one of the very, very few board certified Veterinary Oncologists who is also integrative, has a TCVM Masters as well. So she talk about brilliant, very, very brilliant person. Yes, she is a scholar.
Gwen Campbell 38:35
All of all of the folks that we have for the 2027 Experience have so many initials behind their name. It's very humbling. They're very well educated. She's super cool, yeah, in the in the area of cancer, which unfortunately, is plaguing a large majority of our pets, for all the reasons that we talked about earlier. And so she, I think, on the topic of cancer, she's probably one of the best in the world that you could hear from, yeah, on the topic of cancer
Dr. Judy Morgan 39:00
But she's going to speak more not to treating cancer, but to setting your pets up for success, to hopefully avoid being one of those statistics. So gonna give us a lot of tidbits on, you know, practical ways that you can can help ward off the big C.
Gwen Campbell 39:27
We also are adding a human speaker, an MD this time. So we will have Dr Peter McCullough, which you actually got to meet in person, which is kind of how this all started snowballing.
Dr. Judy Morgan 39:37
It did start snowballing. So when I went to Nashville last November for the International Association of Top Professionals award ceremony where I was awarded Holistic Veterinarian of the Decade. Dr Peter McCullough was also getting a Lifetime Achievement Award at the event. I fangirled. And, you know, he's one of those, you know, when people see me for the first time and they run up and they're like, Oh, I'm fangirling. And I'm, I'm so nervous, I don't and I kind of laugh at them and go, really, like, I'm just a regular person. Well, I was on the other side of the fence. I was like, I'm, like, Hue come with me. I have to, I have to go introduce myself to Peter McCullough. I like, I've been wanting to meet him like he's really, so he's, he's an epidemiology he's got a degree in epidemiology, an MPH, Master's Public Health. He's an epidemiologist and a board certified cardiologist and internal medicine specialist. I mean, he's just like,
Gwen Campbell 40:40
And he's in the research, if you look up his research studies, got hundreds of research papers
Dr. Judy Morgan 40:46
tons and tons of research, yeah, and he happens to be from the Dallas area, and so I met him at this event, and we exchanged cards, and he literally had me on his podcast, like three days later, and he said, You know, I don't, all of my followers have pets, and we don't talk about this. And, yeah, we should be talking about, you know, natural health for the pets, just like we should for the people and
Gwen Campbell 41:12
and we had the same thing, we're like, we're talking about natural health for the pets. We should be talking about natural health for the people. So it all for some reason, there's kind of that barrier there where some people will, you know, think about it for themselves, but then they're putting all the traditionally, things that we don't recommend in the bowl, or injecting it into their pets and vice versa. Some people are all about holistic, natural modalities for their pets, but then they stop eating food in 27 vaccines. Yeah. So it's very interesting how there's kind of that barrier there between pets and people. And I think he kind of had that light bulb moment. So did we where it's like, hey, there's overlap here. The whole family, the whole household should be naturally healthy. Things that are toxic to our pets are the same similar things that are toxic to people, vice versa.
Dr. Judy Morgan 41:57
You know what's really interesting? There's this big push through AVMA for what they call One Health, which is, you know, like antibiotic resistance, it's not just the animals, it's not just the people. Like it affects all of us. So they talk about one health all the time, but their one health is very different from the one health that we look at, we look at regenerative farming and natural health and using herbs and food as our medicine versus the One Health that the traditional you know, AMA, AVMA, what they're looking at is, How do we give the same chemicals to everybody? So it's so it is really interesting, because that is one of the things where they're making this big push for one health. yeah. So are we. We just want it to be one natural health. We need to think of a better name for that, but
Gwen Campbell 42:58
trademark coming later. Yeah. so having a human, a human health person, at this Experience, I'm really excited for because that was direct feedback from people that attended this last Experience about what they're interested in. We were kind of getting the bug to start talking about some of that stuff, because we have kind of overhauled our own family's life and how we do things based on all that we've learned for the pets, essentially. And so he's gonna be great. Very smart guy. He's an awesome speaker. Really excited to have him. And last, but certainly not least, by popular demand, our most demanded speaker is Dr Judy Morgan, you weren't the speaker at the last event. You were the MC, the host.
Dr. Judy Morgan 43:41
MC. What a terrible job. I did not enjoy it at all.
Gwen Campbell
If Jae and Adrienne are listening to this, it's fantastic. You're gonna love it. Thank you so much for signing up for it.
Dr. Judy Morgan
You know what, Jae and Adrienne just they are so funny, and they just have that, that upbeat. I mean, they have the perfect personality for it.
Gwen Campbell
You were a great host, but you're an even better keynote speaker.
Dr. Judy Morgan
I enjoy being a keynote speaker more. I enjoy teaching and presenting.
Gwen Campbell 44:12
the topic that you chose, I think, will be very interesting. There's a lot of cutting edge research coming out about it. You want to talk about all things antibiotics, and you've had lots of practical, hands on experience with it, so I have that is another topic, kind of like vaccines. That topic is not going to go out of style anytime soon. And the topic of antibiotics, antibiotic resistance, overuse, misuse, really important.
Dr. Judy Morgan 44:37
Misuse, what you can use instead,
Gwen Campbell 44:39
yeah, and by popular demand, most on our feedback form, by far, overwhelmingly, the people wanted to hear from Dr Judy Morgan herself. So we're giving the people what they want. There you go, Keynote for 2027 Experience.
Dr. Judy Morgan 44:55
So I'm excited.
Gwen Campbell 44:57
It's going to be bigger and better. Everything's bigger and better in Texas.
Dr. Judy Morgan 45:00
It is. And you know, people, the probably the most negative feedback that we've gotten is, how come there's nothing in 2026?
Gwen Campbell 45:09
Yeah, people are upset that we're not doing 2026 but it takes so much time, effort and energy, literally, we've got a small team of people doing a lot of things, and it takes us that long. It takes us, it takes two years, almost two years, to put together a really great event, and we have Krista on our team, who's wonderful. Shout out to Krista. She does all things event planning, and there are so many tiny details and logistics, and we're bringing in hundreds of people and vendors and companies all coming together to make this happen. So just the coordination effort is huge. The budget is huge.
Dr. Judy Morgan 45:44
I was Just going to say the fundraising for the budget, to put it together is really huge.
Gwen Campbell 45:49
So, we've got awesome companies coming in. We've got pet health companies, human health companies, companies that do both. And there's lots of crossover there. And so the goal is that if you come, you will feel energized, empowered, educated,
Dr. Judy Morgan
you'll wish it was longer. everybody wanted more days.
Gwen Campbell
You'll be sad to leave.
Gwen Campbell 46:11
And it really will be just an unforgettable Experience with like minded people, which is important. You know, it's the world is kind of crazy out there. There's a lot of conflict, and it's nice to be in a place that's very positive, upbeat, energetic. People are just excited to be there and and passionate about the same thing. It's really nice. It's refreshing.
Dr. Judy Morgan 46:32
It is, it is everybody puts politics aside and puts all their differences aside, and everybody just focuses on they're keeping their family healthy and happy.
Gwen Campbell 46:42
Because the truth of matter, that's, that's what we all want, right? It doesn't matter what you look like, what your politics are, or what your background is like. Everybody is there because they love their pets, and hopefully they love the people as well, and they love people that love pets. So that's what it's about. It's not about where we come from. It's about what unites us, and I think that's awesome. It's an unforgettable Experience. We know the speakers are going to be awesome. The vendors will be awesome. The venue we got to meet. We got to go in person, which is beautiful, right in Dallas, Texas. So we're excited. Please get your ticket and join us.
Dr. Judy Morgan 47:18
Yeah, absolutely. Come. Have fun.
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